Listen Here

| |

Conversation
Highlights

From Consulting to Product: Key Lessons in Building an Enterprise Security Company

The journey from consultant to product company founder rarely follows a straight line. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, IriusRisk CEO Stephen de Vries shared how a pivot from security consulting to building automated threat modeling software led to consistent triple-digit growth – and the critical lessons learned along the way.

The origins of IriusRisk trace back to Stephen’s early days as a penetration tester, where he noticed a fundamental shift in how companies approached security. “Companies were still sending us IP addresses, but increasingly they were sending us URLs,” Stephen explains. “They said, yeah, I don’t care about my infrastructure, I’ve got that protected…But we’ve written this unique application. It’s now live on the Internet. What are the security problems in this application?”

This evolution revealed a deeper problem: organizations needed to think about security during the design phase, not just after deployment. It’s a challenge Stephen likens to architectural safety in construction: “If you’ve ever built a house, you’ll know that the architect of that house plays a pretty significant role in the safety of it…in the software world, it’s now 2023, and now is the first time when we’re saying maybe it’ll be good idea that we look at the design of the things we’re building from a security perspective before we go and build them.”

But the path from identifying this opportunity to building a successful product company wasn’t straightforward. The team made what Stephen calls a “really silly, stupid mistake” that offers a valuable lesson for consultants looking to transition to product: they kept operating under the same company structure instead of creating a new entity for the product business.

“When you then apply for some of the grants that are available in the EU…or when you apply for things like startup accelerators, they will just ask you a very simple question, how old is your company?” Stephen notes. “And all of a sudden you’re being penalized because you started the software business maybe this year, but you’ve got seven years of history as a consulting firm.”

The growth strategy that emerged focused heavily on expansion revenue within existing accounts rather than just chasing new logos. This approach has driven consistent growth rates above 100% year over year. As Stephen explains, expansion revenue is “the most satisfying growth that we can have, because it’s not essentially a customer who’s gone through a demo and a pov and they maybe see through rose colored glasses.”

This expansion-first mindset requires involvement from every team. “When a customer does expand…it’s something that the product team did to build a feature that the customer needed or solve a problem that they had. It’s our customer success team that listened to what they needed and responded to. It’s our support team, it’s our sales team, it’s our marketing team.”

For founders navigating enterprise sales, Stephen emphasizes the importance of authenticity over conforming to investor expectations. “I think investors expect an overly optimistic Founder to always come through with, we’re going to change the world…And my personal style isn’t to present that way, so I’ll just present the numbers as they are.”

This approach might seem counterintuitive, but it builds trust. When investors see realistic projections backed by consistent execution, “they recognize that, yeah, this is something that’s trustworthy and it’s not crazy expectations with an over optimistic Founder.”

The future of software security is increasingly tied to architecture and design decisions, particularly as technologies like low-code and AI-generated code become more prevalent. As Stephen explains, “the act of writing little bits of code, little units of computation, microservices, functions, all of those things are going to become commoditized. What’s going to become less commoditized and where the interesting problem space is, how do I connect all that stuff?”

For technical founders entering the enterprise space, Stephen’s journey offers a crucial lesson: focus on solving real problems, maintain authenticity in your approach, and build for sustainable expansion rather than just initial sales. The market will reward substance over style.

Actionable
Takeaways

Pivot from Services to Product with Clarity

Transitioning from a consulting business to a product-based company can unlock significant growth potential. Founders should consider this pivot when they identify scalable solutions within their consulting insights. However, it's crucial to distinguish the entities for grants and accelerator applications, as historical company age might impact eligibility.

Embrace Market Evolution

Stephen's journey from fixing Y2K bugs to leading a cybersecurity firm illustrates the importance of evolving with the market. Founders should stay attuned to emerging trends and technologies, adapting their offerings to meet new security challenges and regulatory requirements.

Secure Design as a Differentiator

With increasing regulatory focus on secure software development, integrating security at the design stage can serve as a competitive advantage. Founders should incorporate secure design principles early in their product development to meet compliance and enhance product value.

Build Authentic Investor Relationships

Stephen's fundraising advice emphasizes authenticity and realistic projections. Founders should present their business plans and growth projections honestly, building trust with investors by avoiding overly optimistic or unrealistic pitches.

Leverage Analyst Relations for Enterprise Sales

For B2B companies targeting enterprise clients, analyst relations can play a key role in positioning and go-to-market strategies. Engaging with industry analysts can provide valuable market insights and enhance credibility with potential customers.

Recommended Founder
Interviews

Umaimah Khan

CEO and Co-Founder of Opal Security

Umaimah Khan, CEO & Co-Founder of Opal Security: $32 Million Raised to Build the Future of Identity Security

John Milburn

CEO of Clear Skye

John Milburn, CEO of Clear Skye: More Than $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Identity and Access Governance

Justin Beals

CEO, Co-Founder of Strike Graph

Justin Beals, CEO of Strike Graph: $12 Million Raised to Build the Future of Automated Security and Compliance

Ayal Yogev

CEO and Co-Founder of Anjuna

Ayal Yogev, CEO and Co-Founder of Anjuna: $42 Million to Build The Future of Confidential Computing

Ori Eisen

CEO & Founder of Trusona

Ori Eisen, CEO & Founder of Trusona: $38 Million Raised to Power the Future of Account Takeover Prevention

Dave Mor

CEO and Co-Founder of OneLayer

Dave Mor, CEO and Co-Founder of OneLayer: $15 Million Raised to Protect Private Cellular Networks

Jason Martin

Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Permiso Security

Jason Martin, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Permiso Security: $10 Million Raised to Build the Future of Cloud Security

Dan Lorenc

CEO & Founder of Chainguard

Dan Lorenc, CEO & Founder of Chainguard: $250 Million Raised to Power the Future of Software Supply Chain Security

David Brumley

CEO of Mayhem

David Brumley, CEO of Mayhem: $38 Million Raised to Build the Future of Security Testing

Russell Spitler

CEO & Co-Founder of Nudge Security

Russell Spitler, CEO & Co-Founder of Nudge Security: $17 Million Raised to Build the Future of SaaS Security

Paul Lewis

Founder and CEO of Calamu

Paul Lewis, CEO of Calamu: $20 Million Raised to Build the Cyber Storage Category

Philippe Humeau

CEO of CrowdSec

Philippe Humeau, CEO of CrowdSec: $21 Million Raised to Build the Future of Cyber Threat Intelligence

Paul Valente

CEO and Co-Founder of VISO Trust

Paul Valente, CEO and Co-Founder of VISO Trust: $17 Million Raised to Build the Future of Third-Party Cyber Risk Management

Neil Serebryany

CEO and Co-Founder of CalypsoAI

Neil Serebryany, CEO & Co-Founder of CalypsoAI: $38 Million Raised to Power the Future of AI Security

Tom Jermoluk

CEO of Beyond Identity

Tom “TJ” Jermoluk, CEO of Beyond Identity: $200 Million Raised to Build the Future of Multi-Factor Authentication

Jean Le Bouthillier

CEO of Qohash

Jean Le Bouthillier, CEO of Qohash: $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Data Security

Ian Amit

CEO and Founder of Gomboc

Ian Amit, CEO & Founder of Gomboc: $5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Cloud Security Remediation

Mykolas Rambus

CEO & Co-Founder of Hush

Mykolas Rambus, CEO & Co-Founder of Hush: $7.5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Data Privacy

Michael Assraf

CEO & Co-Founder of Vicarius

Michael Assraf, CEO of Vicarius: $29 Million Raised to Build the Future of Vulnerability Prioritization

Pukar Hamal

CEO and Founder of SecurityPal

Pukar Hamal, CEO and Founder of SecurityPal: $21 Million Raised to Power the Future of Customer Assurance

Eric Olden

CEO and Founder of Strata Identity

Eric Olden, CEO and Founder of Strata Identity: $42 Million Raised to Build the Identity Orchestration Category

Colby Proffitt

VP of Marketing of Shift5

From the Pentagon to B2B: Colby Proffitt’s Journey and ABM Insights

Ken Bagnall

CEO & Founder of Silent Push

Ken Bagnall, CEO & Founder of Silent Push: $22 Million Raised to Transform Threat Intelligence Through Adversary Infrastructure Monitoring

Aurelie Guerrieri

Chief Marketing & Alliances Officer of DataDome

Aurelie Guerrieri, Chief Marketing & Alliances Officer at DataDome: 20 Years in Silicon Valley – Insights on the Evolving Tech Landscape

Itzik Alvas

CEO & Co-Founder of Entro Security

Itzik Alvas, CEO & Co-Founder of Entro Security: $24 Million Raised to Build the Future of Non-Human Identity Management

Ryan Lasmaili

CEO & Co-Founder of Vaultree

Ryan Lasmaili, CEO of Vaultree: $16 Million Raised to Build the World’s First Fully Functional Data-in-Use Encryption

Sivan Tehila

Founder and CEO of Onyxia

Sivan Tehila, Founder and CEO of Onyxia: $5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Cybersecurity Performance Management

Arie Zilberstein

CEO and Co-Founder of Gem Security

Arie Zilberstein, CEO and Co-Founder of Gem Security: $34 Million Raised to Power the Future of Cloud Detection and Response

Christian Almenar

CEO & Co-Founder of Monad

Christian Almenar, CEO of Monad: $19 Million Raised to Solve the Cybersecurity Big Data Problem

Spencer Thompson

CEO and Co-Founder of Prelude

Spencer Thompson, CEO and Co-Founder of Prelude: Over $30 Million Raised to Build the Future of Continuous Security Testing

Rodrigo Leme

Marketing Director of Right-Hand Cybersecurity

Rodrigo Leme, Marketing Director at Right-Hand Cybersecurity: Standing Out in a Crowded Market – Niche Targeting and Customer-Centric Approach

Peter Prizio Jr

CEO of SnapAttack

Peter Prizio Jr, CEO of SnapAttack: $8 Million Raised to Power the Future of Threat Management

Matteo Bogana

CEO and Co-Founder of Cleafy

Matteo Bogana, CEO & Co-Founder of Cleafy: $12 Million Raised to Build the Future of Online Fraud Prevention

Marina Segal

CEO and Co-Founder of Tamnoon

Marina Segal, CEO & Co-Founder of Tamnoon: Over $5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Cloud Security

Ani Chaudhuri

CEO & Co-Founder of Dasera

Ani Chaudhuri, CEO & Co-Founder of Dasera: $21 Million Raised to Build the Future of Data Security

Danny Lopez

CEO of Glasswall

Danny Lopez CEO of Glasswall: $60+ Million Raised to Make the Content Disarm and Reconstruction (CDR) Category Mainstream

Edward Wu

CEO and Founder of Dropzone AI

Edward Wu, CEO & Founder of Dropzone AI: $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of AI SOC Analysts

Robert Cowart

CEO & Co-Founder of ElastiFlow

Robert Cowart, CEO & Co-Founder of ElastiFlow: $8 Million Raised to Power the Future of Network Performance and Security Analytics

Stijn Vande Casteele

Founder of Sweepatic

Stijn Vande Casteele, Founder of Sweepatic: $4.4 Million Raised to Build the Future of External Attack Surface Management

Ryan Schonfeld

Founder & CEO of Hivewatch

Ryan Schonfeld, CEO of Hivewatch: $25 Million Raised to Build the OS of Physical Security

Nadav Arbel

CEO & Co-Founder of Cyrebro

Nadav Arbel, CEO & Co-Founder of Cyrebro: $51 Million Raised to Build the Future of ML-Backed MDR

Scott McCrady

CEO of SolCyber

Scott McCrady, CEO of SolCyber: $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Managed Security

Arjun Bhatnagar

CEO & Co-Founder of Cloaked

Arjun Bhatnagar, CEO of Cloaked: $25 Million Raised to Build the Future of Data Privacy

Josh Shaul

CEO of Allure Security

Josh Shaul, CEO of Allure Security: $6 Million Raised to Help Businesses Win the Battle Against Online Scammers

Mollie Breen

CEO and Co-Founder of Perygee

Mollie Breen, CEO and Co-Founder of Perygee: $6.4 Million Raised to Build the Future of IT/OT Security

Austin Gadient

CTO & Co-Founder of Vali Cyber

Austin Gadient, CTO & Co-Founder of Vali Cyber: $15 Million Raised to Build the Future of Linux Security

Sebastian Stranieri

CEO & Founder of VU Security

Sebastian Stranieri, CEO & Founder of VU Security: $24 Million Raised to Build the Future of Digital Identity & Fraud Prevention

Kyle Hanslovan

CEO & Co-Founder of Huntress

Kyle Hanslovan, CEO of Huntress: $160 Million Raised to Build the Future of Managed Security

David Etue

CEO of Nisos

David Etue, CEO of Nisos: $33 Million Raised to Build the Future of Managed Intelligence

Tiffany Ricks

CEO and Founder of HacWare

Tiffany Ricks, CEO and Founder of HacWare: $2.6 Million Raised to Build the Future of Security Awareness

Bill Moore

CEO and Founder of XONA

Bill Moore, CEO and Founder of XONA: $30 Million Raised to Build the Future of OT User Access