Prem Kumar.
CEO | Co-founder · Humanly
Prem Kumar is the Co-Founder and CEO of Humanly.io, an AI-powered recruiting platform that streamlines high-volume hiring processes. Before founding Humanly.io in 2020, Prem led product management and design teams at TINYpulse, focusing on employee engagement solutions. He also spent a decade at Microsoft in various product roles, including work on HR technology and Dynamics 365. Prem holds a Bachelor of Science in Informatics from the University of Washington. His contributions to the HR tech industry have been recognized by Forbes, GeekWire, and the Puget Sound Business Journal.
Guest
Prem Kumar
CEO | Co-founder
Company:
Humanly
Location:
Greater Seattle Area
Funding:
$5.5M Raised
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From User Pain to Product Evolution: How Humanly's Founder is Rethinking High-Volume Recruiting

Personal experience often shapes the most compelling startup stories. For Humanly founder Prem Kumar, it was witnessing the stark contrast in interview experiences between himself and a female classmate at the University of Washington that first planted the seeds of his venture.

"We'd compare notes from the interviews and we'd be interviewing with the exact same companies for the exact same job, with the exact same interview panel," Prem shared in a recent episode of Category Visionaries. "It would just perplex me how different the interviews were... she was being grilled as a woman on a lot of questions that I wasn't on the technical side."

This early observation evolved into a deeper understanding of systemic inefficiencies in high-volume recruiting. Instead of viewing hiring teams as inherently biased, Prem recognized a technological gap: "Hiring teams aren't innately biased. They're not bad, they just don't have the tech to really engage with candidates at scale in these high volume scenarios."

The journey from insight to execution wasn't immediate. After ten years at Microsoft and a stint at TinyPulse, Prem's path to founding was marked by careful consideration, particularly around benefits and family impact. "That one thing probably held me back for two or three years," he admits, referring to healthcare concerns. "I might have gone sooner if I answered that question sooner or put in the research to answer it sufficiently to myself and my family."

Y Combinator proved transformative for Humanly's approach to product development. Rather than building comprehensive solutions immediately, Prem embraced focused iteration: "Build something that a small group of people love and hopefully that small group of people is representative of a larger market."

This philosophy led to systematic user research - 55 detailed interviews tracked in a spreadsheet breaking down industry, demographics, and pain points. The process yielded unexpected insights about candidate experience: "Even the candidates that didn't get the job rated it very strongly, which was a surprise... treating them with respect and kind of following through, even with a simple, not like auto generated follow up email, can go a really long way."

In crafting their go-to-market strategy, Humanly took deliberate steps to differentiate in the crowded HR tech space. "There's kind of two strategies I've seen founders take," Prem explains. "One is just getting very specific in who you're solving the problem for... In our case, it's a little bit of a combination of both. We're not helping you hire for engineers... We're very much focused on these high volume, entry level roles."

Their approach to category creation draws inspiration from Drift's conversational marketing playbook, but with a crucial distinction. "When people think conversational AI, they're thinking chatbot," Prem notes. "But to me, conversational AI for recruiting is about any conversations you're having with job candidates, not just the automated ones... how do you make that more efficient and more equitable?"

The emergence of advanced AI tools like GPT-3 hasn't derailed this vision. Instead, Prem sees opportunities for targeted application: "We're using our own generative AI built on top of GPT-3 to automatically generate follow up emails for recruiters... using the generative AI as well as other technology in ways that isn't just throwing technology to human problem."

Looking ahead, Humanly aims to scale their impact dramatically. "Can we turn that to a million [conversations] a month?" Prem asks. "I'm basically saying there's now a million screening conversations that might have been done in an unstructured way... but now all of those million per month are happening in a more structured, less biased and more efficient way."

This focus on measurable impact extends beyond traditional metrics. "These are numbers we share with our investors, the impact metrics as well, not just the financial ones," Prem emphasizes, highlighting how Humanly's mission drives both its product development and go-to-market strategy.

Five takeaways from this conversation.

Actionable for HR Tech Builders founders

  1. Focus on Solving Specific Pain Points
    Prem's experience emphasizes the importance of identifying and addressing specific challenges within a market segment. For HR tech founders, understanding the nuances of high-volume recruiting processes and the pain points of both hiring teams and candidates can guide the development of targeted solutions that genuinely improve efficiency and fairness.
  2. Utilizing Data for Continuous Improvement
    Data plays a crucial role in refining and validating your product. Humanly's approach to collecting candidate feedback and engagement metrics demonstrates how data can be used to continuously enhance user experience and product effectiveness. Founders should prioritize building a data-driven culture that leverages analytics to inform product development and market strategies.
  3. Building with Ecosystem Compatibility in Mind
    Prem's strategy of aligning Humanly with existing ATS (Applicant Tracking Systems) and leveraging established infrastructure like Azure showcases the value of ensuring your product integrates smoothly with the broader ecosystem. This reduces friction for adoption and enhances the value proposition for potential enterprise customers.
  4. Adapting Go-to-Market Strategies to Your Audience
    Understanding the buying behavior and preferences of your target market is crucial for developing an effective go-to-market strategy. For HR and recruiting tech, where the market is experiencing a shift towards PLG (Product-Led Growth) alongside traditional top-down sales, finding the right balance and tailoring your approach can significantly impact your success.
  5. Emphasizing Culture and Alignment Within Your Team
    As your startup grows, maintaining a strong culture and ensuring team alignment become increasingly challenging but essential. Fostering a shared understanding of your mission, vision, and values from the outset can help sustain momentum and unity as you scale.