Listen Here

| |

Conversation
Highlights

Creating a New Energy Category: The Unconventional Path of Bedrock’s Geothermal Innovation

Geothermal energy has existed for decades, yet it remains a niche solution in the broader energy landscape. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, Joselyn Lai, CEO and co-founder of Bedrock, shared how her company is transforming this established technology into a scalable distributed energy category through innovative drilling technology and strategic go-to-market approaches.

The Evolution from Technology to Category

Unlike typical category creation stories in software, Bedrock’s journey involves transforming an existing technology into a mainstream energy solution. As Joselyn explains, “We don’t have the hubris of saying, oh, we’re actually inventing geothermal direct use. We’re here to say it is not a scalable asset category because costs haven’t come down, because adoption barriers haven’t come down, risk hasn’t been solved for, and bankability and finance ability hasn’t been solved for.”

This perspective shapes their entire approach to category creation. Rather than introducing an entirely new concept, they’re focused on making an existing solution viable at scale. Joselyn draws a parallel to solar energy’s evolution: “Twenty years ago, solar was not anything more than a novelty, but now it is an industry into which you have so many small businesses, big businesses, you have financial products, you have insurance products.”

Strategic Early Customer Selection

One of the most interesting aspects of Bedrock’s GTM strategy is their laser focus on specific customer profiles. Instead of trying to convert everyone to geothermal, they target customers with immediate, pressing needs. As Joselyn describes, “We really need to focus on the kinds of customers that have a near term need for geothermal. That makes them an early adopter. So usually these are folks that have an incentive or a mandate to do the more sustainable option in their buildings.”

This focused approach led to their first major deployment with CIM Group, a nationwide real estate firm with emissions reduction targets. The project served as both a technical validation and a learning opportunity. Joselyn shares, “We learned about the process of setting up a construction site right outside the windows of a occupied office building where people were working… We learned just about all the steps in the construction process.”

Leveraging Existing Knowledge Networks

Rather than shouldering the entire burden of market education, Bedrock takes advantage of existing industry knowledge. Joselyn notes, “All real estate developers and owners, they have a large ecosystem of architects and engineers and construction managers who they rely on. And that universe, especially architects and engineers, already know about geothermal.”

This approach allows them to work through trusted advisors who already understand the value proposition, significantly reducing the education burden and accelerating adoption.

Managing Deep Tech Development Timelines

Perhaps the most challenging aspect of Bedrock’s journey is managing the long development and sales cycles inherent in deep tech. As Joselyn candidly shares, “Some of the projects that I’m talking about right now with customers are projects that might break ground in 2025 or 2026.”

This reality requires a different approach to both investor relations and customer pipeline development. They work with investors who understand that “in hard tech the timelines for development are a bit longer than in software,” while simultaneously demonstrating that geothermal solutions can generate revenue today.

Building for Scale

Looking ahead, Bedrock’s vision extends beyond individual installations to creating a new energy infrastructure category. Joselyn envisions a future where “we actually just like get free thermal energy from the ground under our buildings pretty much in every city in the world.” To achieve this, they’re focusing on making their solution more affordable, accessible, and financeable.

The lessons from Bedrock’s journey offer valuable insights for deep tech founders tackling complex market challenges. Their approach demonstrates that category creation isn’t always about inventing something entirely new – sometimes it’s about making an existing solution viable at scale through technological innovation and strategic go-to-market execution.

Actionable
Takeaways

Leverage Existing Technologies for New Applications:

Joselyn's approach to adapting technologies developed for oil and gas for geothermal energy illustrates the potential for innovation within sustainable industries. Founders can explore how existing technologies might be repurposed to solve different environmental challenges, enhancing scalability and impact.

Identify and Address Market Gaps:

The geothermal energy market was limited by high costs and logistical challenges. Joselyn's focus on making geothermal solutions more affordable and feasible for urban settings highlights the importance of addressing specific barriers to broaden technology adoption. This approach can be a blueprint for entrepreneurs looking to innovate in established but stagnant sectors.

Develop Dual Value Propositions:

By demonstrating how geothermal systems can be both economically beneficial and environmentally sustainable, Bedrock Energy creates compelling reasons for adoption. Founders should aim to align their product benefits with both financial incentives and broader social or environmental gains to enhance attractiveness to potential adopters.

Engage with Stakeholders Early:

The early involvement of real estate developers and property owners in the pilot projects facilitated real-world applications and feedback. Startups should engage potential clients and key stakeholders early in the development process to tailor solutions that meet actual market needs and refine their product offerings.

Utilize Strategic Education and Awareness Campaigns:

Since geothermal energy is relatively underutilized, part of Bedrock's strategy involves educating potential customers on its benefits. Similarly, startups introducing novel solutions should invest in strategic education efforts to increase market acceptance and reduce barriers to entry.

Recommended Founder
Interviews

Matei Stratan

CEO of Ogre

Matei Stratan, CEO of Ogre: $2 Million Raised to Build the Future of Energy Management

Kameale Terry

Co-Founder and CEO of ChargerHelp!

Kameale Terry, Co-Founder and CEO of ChargerHelp!: Over $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Electric Vehicle Infrastructure

Saurabh Kapoor

CEO & Co-Founder of Metafuels

Saurabh Kapoor, CEO & Co-Founder of Metafuels: $22 Million Raised to Pioneer Synthetic Aviation Fuel Technology

Astrid Atkinson

CEO & Co-Founder of Camus Energy

Astrid Atkinson, CEO of Camus Energy: $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Grid Management

Troy Carter

CEO and Co-Founder of Earthshot Labs

Troy Carter, CEO and Co-Founder of Earthshot Labs: $11 Million Raised to Power the Future of Ecosystem Conservation and Restoration

Steff Gerhart

Co-Founder & Co-CEO of ecoLocked

Steff Gerhart, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of ecoLocked: $6 Million Raised to Transform Buildings into Carbon Sinks

Iain Cooper

CEO of SeekOps Inc.

Iain Cooper, CEO of SeekOps, $23 Million Raised to Build the Future of Emissions Monitoring

Thibault Castagne

CEO and Founder of Vianova

Thibault Castagne, CEO and Founder of Vianova: $8.8 Million Raised to Build the Go-To Operating System for the Mobility World

Mukund Karanjikar

CEO of CleanJoule

Mukund Karanjikar, CEO of CleanJoule: $55 Million Raised to Power the Future of Sustainable Aviation Fuel

Tim Weiss

CEO and Co-Founder of Optera

Tim Weiss, CEO & Co-Founder of Optera: $17.5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Carbon Management and Accounting

Antoine Welter

CEO and Co-Founder of Circu Li-ion

Antoine Welter, CEO & Co-Founder of Circu Li-ion: $8.5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Battery Upcycling

Omar Abou-Sayed

Co-Founder & Executive Chairman of Vaulted Deep

Omar Abou-Sayed, Co-Founder & Executive Chairman of Vaulted Deep: $8 Million Raised to Build the Future of Carbon Removal

Khaled Hassounah

CEO & Founder of Ample

Khaled Hassounah, CEO and Founder of Ample: $290M Raised to Build the Future of EV Batteries

Greg Fallon

CEO of Geminus

Greg Fallon, CEO of Geminus: $12 Million Raised to Help the Industrial Sector Prepare for the Energy Transition

Virginia Klausmeier

CEO and Founder of Sylvatex

Virginia Klausmeier, CEO and Founder of Sylvatex: More Than $15 Million Raised to Build a Better Class of Sustainable Materials and Drive the Green Revolution

Joshua Riedy

CEO and Founder of Thread

Joshua Riedy, CEO and Founder of Thread: $20 Million Raised to Power the Future of Energy Grid Maintenance

Ben Christensen

CEO of Cambium Carbon

Ben Christensen, CEO of Cambium Carbon: $5.5 Million Raised to Build a new Category of Sustainable Wood

Michael Witte

CEO & Co-founder of Workrise

Michael Witte, CEO & Co-founder of Workrise: $750 Million Raised to Power the Future of the Energy Industry

Daniel Betts

CEO & Co-Founder of Blue Frontier

Daniel Betts, CEO of Blue Frontier: $47.8M Raised to Revolutionize Air Conditioning with Energy-Storing Smart Climate Technology

Adam Silver

CEO & Co-Founder of Plural Energy

Adam Silver, CEO & Co-Founder of Plural Energy: $2.8 Million Raised to Build the Future of Clean Energy Investing

Matt Loszak

CEO & Co-Founder of Aalo Atomics

Matt Loszak, CEO & Co-Founder of Aalo Atomics: $33 Million Raised to Build the Future of Nuclear Energy

John Belizaire

CEO of Soluna

John Belizaire, CEO of Soluna: $180 Million Raised to Power the Future of Renewable Computing for AI

Manik Suri

Manik Suri, CEO and Founder of Therma: $30 Million Raised to Build the Cooling Intelligence Category

Alisa Valderrama

Co-founder and CEO of FutureProof Technologies

Alisa Valderrama, Co-Founder and CEO of FutureProof Technologies: $10 Million Raised to Translate Climate and Weather and Financial Risk with Unprecedented Accuracy

Martin Kosak

Head of Marketing of Sensoneo

Event Marketing Mastery: Martin Kosak on Sensoneo’s Success at Trade Shows

Allison Wolff

CEO of Vibrant Planet

Allison Wolff, CEO at Vibrant Planet: $34 Million Raised to Build the Future of Land Management Restoration

Sid Jha

Founder & CEO of Arbol

Sid Jha, Founder & CEO of Arbol: Over $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Climate Risk Management

Greg Newbloom

CEO and Founder of Membrion

Greg Newbloom, CEO & Founder of Membrion: $23 Million Raised to Build the Future of Industrial Wastewater Treatment Solutions

Francesco Volpe

Founder of Renaissance Fusion

Francesco Volpe, Founder of Renaissance Fusion: $30M Raised to Build the Future of Nuclear Fusion Technology

Preston Bryant

Co-Founder, Executive Chair, & Chief Commercial Officer of Momentum

Preston Bryant, Co-Founder of Momentum: $20 Million Raised to Transform Battery Recycling Through Materials Science Innovation

Dr. Kai-Philipp Kairies

CEO and Co-Founder of Accure

Dr. Kai-Philipp Kairies, CEO & Co-Founder of Accure: $18.5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Battery Intelligence

Ali Javidan

Co-Founder of Range Energy

Ali Javidan, Co-Founder of Range Energy: $9 Million Raised to Build the Future of Electric Semi-Trucks

Quentin Scrimshire

CEO and Co-Founder of Modo Energy

Quentin Scrimshire, CEO & Co-Founder of Modo Energy: $20 Million Raised to Build the Energy Asset Benchmarking Category

Dan Forman

CEO and Co-Founder of Copper Labs

Dan Forman, CEO and Co-Founder of Copper Labs: $13 Million Raised to Enable the Data-Driven Utility of the Future

Thomas Sisto

CEO & Co-Founder of XL Batteries

Thomas Sisto, CEO & Co-Founder of XL Batteries: $20 Million Raised to Transform Grid-Scale Energy Storage

Gary Ong

CEO & Founder of Celadyne

Gary Ong, CEO & Founder of Celadyne: $5 Million Raised to Power the Future of Green Hydrogen Production

Allen Kramer

Co-Founder & COO of Crux

Allen Kramer, Co-Founder and COO of Crux: $27 Million Raised to Power the Future of Sustainable Finance

Kentaro Kawamori

CEO & Co-Founder of Persefoni

Kentaro Kawamori, CEO & Co-Founder of Persefoni: $114 Million Raised to Build the Climate Disclosure & Carbon Management Category

Liz Gilligan

CEO & Founder of Material Evolution

Liz Gilligan, CEO & Founder of Material Evolution: $19 Million Raised to Build the Future of Sustainable Cement

Matt LeDucq

CEO and Co-Founder of Forum Mobility

Matt LeDucq, CEO & Co-Founder of Forum Mobility: $423 Million Raised to Power the Future of Zero-Emission Trucking

Chris Hare

CEO of PRTI

Chris Hare, CEO of PRTI: Over $25 Million Raised to Transform America’s Billions of Waste Tires into Valuable Commodities

Kenneth Herschel

CEO and Co-Founder of Viggo

Kenneth Herschel, CEO and Co-Founder of Viggo: Nearly $6 Million Raised to Build the Future of EV Charging Infrastructure

Josh Knauer

Co-Founder of Reseed

Josh Knauer, Co-Founder of Reseed: $5 Million Raised to Build the Future of Carbon Credits for Farmers

Michael Belenkie

CEO and President of Entropy

Michael Belenkie, CEO and President of Entropy: $300 Million Raised to Spearhead Efficiency and Innovation in the Carbon Capture Economy

Marc Borrett

CEO & Co-Founder of Reactive Technologies

Marc Borrett, CEO & Co-Founder of Reactive Technologies: $80 Million Raised to Build the Future of Grid Measurement

Arvin Ganesan

CEO of Fourth Power

Arvin Ganesan, CEO of Fourth Power: $20 Million Raised to Build the Future of Energy Storage

Kaitlyn Albertoli

CEO and Co-Founder of Buzz Solutions

Kaitlyn Albertoli, CEO and Co-Founder of Buzz Solutions: Nearly $6 Million Raised to Build the Future of Infrastructure Inspection

Javier Marti

CEO and Founder of Divirod

Javier Marti, CEO & Founder of Divirod: $7.6 Million Raised to Build the Google Maps For Water

Marina Azcarate

Head of Marketing of Mitiga Solutions

Marina Azcarate, Head of Marketing at Mitiga Solutions: Driving the Future of Climate Risk with Cutting-Edge Tech

Scott Graybeal

CEO of Caelux

Scott Graybeal, CEO of Caelux: $70 Million Raised to Transform Solar Energy with Perovskite Technology

Alex Siminoff

Director of Marketing of Parity

Alex Siminoff, Director of Marketing at Parity: Mastering HVAC Optimization with Effective B2B Storytelling

Zak Lefevre

CEO of ChargeLab

Zak Lefevre, CEO of ChargeLab: $20 Million Raised to Build the Operating System for EV Chargers

Elizabeth Muller

Co-Founder and Executive Chair of Deep Isolation

Elizabeth Muller, Co-Founder and Executive Chair of the Board of Deep Isolation: Over $22 Million Raised to Build the Future of Nuclear Waste Disposal

Curtis VanWalleghem

Co-Founder & CEO, Board Member of Hydrostor

Curtis VanWalleghem, CEO of Hydrostor: $322 Million Raised to Build the Future of Energy Storage

Doron Myersdorf

CEO & Co-Founder of StoreDot

Doron Myersdorf, CEO & Co-Founder of StoreDot : $200 Million Raised to Power the Future of Electric Vehicles

Sandeep Ahuja

CEO of Covetool

Sandeep Ahuja, CEO of Covetool: $36 Million Raised to Power the Future of Building Design with AI

Gary Lewis

CEO & Co-Founder of Resourcify

Gary Lewis, CEO & Co-Founder of Resourcify: $15 Million Raised to Build the Future of Recycling Management